{"id":399,"date":"2011-02-10T22:20:03","date_gmt":"2011-02-10T14:20:03","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/china.sankirtan.com\/?p=399"},"modified":"2011-02-10T22:20:03","modified_gmt":"2011-02-10T14:20:03","slug":"2009%e5%b9%b4%e5%9c%a3%e9%98%bf%e5%85%91%e5%a1%94%e6%9f%a5%e5%b0%94%e4%ba%9a%e7%9a%84%e4%b8%bd%e6%8b%89","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/china.sankirtan.com\/?p=399","title":{"rendered":"2009\u5e74\u5723\u963f\u5151\u5854\u67e5\u5c14\u4e9a\u7684\u4e3d\u62c9"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>[audio:memorial\/Sri Advaita Acarya&#8217;s lila-Krishna Baladeva das-2009.02.01.mp3|titles=2009\u5e74\u963f\u5151\u5854\u67e5\u5c14\u4e9a\u663e\u73b0\u65e5|artists=\u963f\u53d4]<a href=\"http:\/\/data.mykrsna.org\/podcast\/memorial\/Sri Advaita Acarya's lila-Krishna Baladeva das-2009.02.01.mp3\">\u70b9\u51fb\u4e0b\u8f7d<\/a><\/p>\n<p>[09-2-1 \u4e0b\u534812:18:24] gopikrsna:  did Avaita Charya only keep beard during this four month \u00a0of Caturmasya or keep it always?\u001d<\/p>\n<p>469448183(469448183) \u00a012:19:21<br \/>\n\u6211\u4eec\u5728\u5bb6\u65e9\u8bfe\u665a\u8bfe\u90fd\u505a\u5417<\/p>\n<p>[09-2-1 \u4e0b\u534812:24:00] gopikrsna:  He is a Vaisnava brahmana, who is supposed to be clean by shaving his face nicely. Why He kept such long beard to indicate his being an senior?\u001d<\/p>\n<p>[09-2-1 \u4e0b\u534812:24:48] Janaka Dasa(Hare Krishna): \u8bf7\u95ee\u963f\u53d4\uff1a\u4e3a\u4ec0\u4e48\u4e3b\u67f4\u5766\u5c3c\u4e9a\u8fd8\u4e0d\u77e5\u9053\u90a3\u6761\u6cb3\u4e0d\u662f\u6052\u6cb3\u800c\u662f\u96c5\u6c90\u90a3\u6cb3\uff0c\u800c\u4f1a\u53d7\u5c3c\u63d0\u5b89\u5357\u8fbe\u5e15\u5e03\u7684\u6b3a\u9a97\uff1f<\/p>\n<p>[09-2-1 \u4e0b\u534812:28:58] Yves Ayoun: we should try and compare how Gaudiya Vaisnavas look based on the brahmanical standard established by Srila Bhaktisiddhanta, especially for deity worship when one is required to be clean shaven, even under the arms. Many of the acaryas and even most of gaudiya devotees 100s of years ago had beard and had long hair. Seniority is not measured by length of facial hair but by expression of bhakti and preaching. We have to look at those apprearances in context of local culture and traditions of the time.<\/p>\n<p>[09-2-1 \u4e0b\u534812:29:30] Janaka Dasa(Hare Krishna): \u8bf7\u95ee\u963f\u53d4\uff1a\u5012\u5e95\u4e3b\u897f\u74e6\u662f\u4ece\u4e3b\u594e\u5e08\u90a3\u7684\u7709\u5fc3\u8bde\u751f\u8fd8\u662f\u4ece\u4e3b\u5e03\u8339\u963f\u739b\u7684\u7709\u5fc3\u8bde\u751f\uff1f\u4e3a\u4ec0\u4e48\u5728\u300a\u535a\u4f3d\u68b5\u6b4c\u300b\u7684\u7b2c\u5341\u7ae0\u7b2c\u516b\u8282\u4e2d\u6709\u4e24\u79cd\u8bf4\u6cd5\uff1f\u5728\u7b2c\u5341\u4e00\u7ae0\u7b2c37\u8282\u4e5f\u6709\u7b2c\u4e8c\u79cd\u8bf4\u6cd5\uff1f<\/p>\n<p>[09-2-1 \u4e0b\u534812:31:58] Yves Ayoun: Lord Nityananda kept his long hair, but Lord Caitanya shaved his head after taking sannyasa<br \/>\n[09-2-1 \u4e0b\u534812:32:58] Yves Ayoun: Most of the vaisnava preachers in China keep hair and yet they are brahmanas<\/p>\n<p>[09-2-1 \u4e0b\u534812:37:54] gopikrsna:  Lord Nityananda also took sanyasa, still he kept long hair?\u001d<\/p>\n<p>[09-2-1 \u4e0b\u534812:39:43] Yves Ayoun: Lord Nityananda was an avadhuta, far beyond sannyasi. His clothe was not orange but blue and he did many thing unconventional to sannyasa behavior. And let us not forger, He is the Supreme Lord.<\/p>\n<p>[09-2-1 \u4e0b\u534812:42:38] Janaka Dasa(Hare Krishna): \u8bf7\u95ee\u963f\u53d4\uff1a\u5728\u300a\u535a\u4f3d\u68b5\u6b4c\u300b\u7b2c11\u7ae0\u7b2c44\u8282\u8bd1\u6587\u4e2d\u8bf4\uff1a\u201c&#8230;&#8230;\u8bf7\u50cf\u7236\u4eb2\u5bb9\u5fcd\u513f\u5b50\u7684\u65e0\u793c\uff0c\u670b\u53cb\u5bb9\u5fcd\u670b\u53cb\u7684\u83bd\u649e\uff0c\u59bb\u5b50\u5bb9\u5fcd\u4e08\u592b\u7684\u968f\u4fbf\u4e00\u6837&#8230;&#8230;\u201d\u4e2d\uff0c\u662f\u4e0d\u662f\u7ffb\u8bd1\u9519\u4e86\uff1f\u8fd9\u91cc\u628a\u594e\u5e08\u90a3\u6bd4\u4f5c\u4e86\u59bb\u5b50\u628a\u963f\u5c14\u8bf8\u90a3\u6bd4\u4f5c\u4e86\u4e08\u592b\uff0c\u662f\u4e0d\u662f\u5e94\u8be5\u662f\u201c\u4e08\u592b\u5bb9\u5fcd\u59bb\u5b50\u7684\u968f\u4fbf\u4e00\u6837\u201d\uff1f<\/p>\n<p>[09-2-1 \u4e0b\u534812:51:26] gopikrsna:  You are the Supreme Lord, to be worshiped by every living being. Thus I fall down to offer You my respectful obeisances and ask Your mercy. As a father tolerates the impudence of his son, a friend the impertinence of a friend, or a husband the familiarity of his wife, please tolerate the wrongs I may have done You.\u001d<\/p>\n<p>[09-2-1 \u4e0b\u534812:53:03] Gopi Gita: 1) In the Maha Upanisad it is also said that Lord Siva was born from the forehead of the Supreme Lord. Thus the Vedas say that it is the Supreme Lord, the creator of Brahma and Siva, who is to be worshiped.<\/p>\n<p>>>> Ref. 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