作者： Caitanyapriyadas

主讲：茹阿达查让帕布，时间：2012年6月24日
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[12-6-24 上午8:07:53] 皈依Converting: 请问RadhaCaran Prabhu：被奎师那触碰过的东西都灵性化了，连海螺这种动物的尸体都微微泛红而变得超然。然而，我们也知道奎师那居住在每个生物心中，那怎么我们还这么堕落呢？
[12-6-24 上午8:09:16] Gopi Gita: Things touched by Krishna all become spiritualized. Even the conch, as the dead body of an animal becomes red and transcendental. However, we also know that Krishna lives in the heart of all living entities, but how come we are still so fallen
[12-6-24 上午8:10:10] Radha Caran: we are fallen because we have freedom to act and that freedom is there so we can make a choice to be with Krsna or not be with Krsna. It is based on love
[12-6-24 上午8:11:19] Gopi Gita: 我们堕落乃是因为我们有行动自由，这样可以选择跟奎师那一起或不跟他一起。这是建立在爱的基础之上的
[12-6-24 上午8:12:12] Radha Caran: if we dont want to love Krsna then we find ourselves isolated in the material world, still Krsna comes with us in case we decide to wake up. That is His kindness
[12-6-24 上午8:13:05] 皈依Converting: 可是奎师那是永远跟我们在一起的啊，并不因为我们不选择跟奎师那在一起他就离开我们吗？
[12-6-24 上午8:13:21] Gopi Gita: 如果选择了不想爱奎师那，那我们就会孤立在这物质世界。但奎师那仍然跟着我们来，以便等候我们决定苏醒过来。这就是奎师那的仁慈
[12-6-24 上午8:13:40] Radha Caran: the story of Krsna’s conch
[12-6-24 上午8:13:43] Radha Caran: Panchajanya is the holy conch of Lord Krishna and the divine conch is also worshipped in Hinduism. One of the popular images of Lord Krishna in Hindu religions is that of Him blowing the Shankh Panchajanya at the beginning the 18-day Kurukshetra battle in the Mahabharata. There is an interesting story which explains how Sri Krishna came into possession of the Panchajanya.

The Guru of Sri Krishna was Saint Sandipani. After the completion of his education, Lord Krishna wanted to offer a Guru Dakshina. As Guru Dakshina Guru Sandipani asked Lord Krishna to find his lost son.

After searching for a while, Lord Krishna found out that the Guru’s son was captured and abducted by a demon named Panchajana. The demon lived under the sea in the form a conch shell.

Krishna soon entered into a fight with the demon and killed him. He rescued the son of Saint Sandipani and took the conch shell.

The conch, Panchajanya, is named after this demon.
[12-6-24 上午8:17:52] Radha Caran: Krsna is always with us but we are not aware of it. When we become aware of it we become Krsna conscious
奎师那总是和我们在一起，但是我们不知道。当我们意识到的时候，也就是我们具有奎师那意识的时候。
[12-6-24 上午8:18:35] Radha Caran: no one can force anyone to do anything. Krsna cannot force us to love him but He is there in case we decide to love Him
没有人可以强迫别人做任何事情，奎师那也不能强迫我们去爱他，但是，有一种情况就是我们决定去爱祂
[12-6-24 上午8:20:16] 皈依Converting: 谢谢帕布的耐心阐释！顶拜您的莲花足！
[12-6-24 上午8:21:02] Radha Caran: 欢迎你 (bow)